Artist's Breaths (Fiato d'Artista), on the right, is another of Manzoni's works. In this work he blew his breath into a series of colored balloons and mounted then onto wooden placks.
In your opinion can these truly be called a works of art? Explain.
Why would someone purchase any of these? Explain.
Do you think that the artist is more interested in the artwork itself or in the idea or message behind it?
What is the message? Why is it important?
Take one more look at Manzoni's work, then read the following quote and explain what you think it means.
"Does this mean that anything can be art? Or does it mean that almost nothing can?"
Explain....
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Oscar Lopez Period:4
ReplyDeleteThe Artist's Shit Is considered art for all the detail that It has. The Artist's shit may be considered amazing for the texture of the words maybe the fabric and desighns may play a role in why It is valable. The Artist's Shit is for sure a work of art but im not sure If It was fair to price It as the same price as gold. In conclusion The Artist's Shit Is a work of art for the texture and designs It has and Is valued around the value of gold and was mad by a man In Milan overall I agree to call It art but I would question the value as I see gold as more valuable.
I agree that the price of gold isn’t the price of this artwork because it’s easily obtained however it is a work of art because not everyone’s is the same. It’s not the same worth but cow poop is valuable for crop and human poop is Just as vauluable but not much of it is being sold.
DeleteI disagree, in my opinion, it is not appealing. But the meaning behind it has value. So I respect your opinion and I can argue on both sides
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Yes, I agree with Merda d'artista being a piece of art as you stated. I really like how you considered the texture, words, fabric and design as to why the piece has value, its something I didn’t consider. I also support the price being expensive for a tin can. Although we may have to consider his legacy. Usually the more famous you are the more value you are worth along with your creations. At the end of the day though it conveys a message n gets people talking for the excrement it may have.
i agree with you because there is so much elements to art that can make you have so much feelings towards it and the price of gold is something i also agree but disagree at the same time because it shouldn't really be that expensive and also because the size of it seems pretty small but if that is how people seen it as valued.
Deletei agree with you because all art have important meaning, detail and value but every art has its price
DeleteI disagree with you in that the art has detail, because when I look at the can I just see a dull looking can like any other, and when I look at the balloon it doesn't really stand out from any other balloon I've seen.
DeleteEric H I am gonna have to disagree with every one who calls this piece "art". I disagree because this does not express any emotions or does not tell a story it is merely a can that is quite literally "full of shit".People only view it as art beccause it was obsurd and done by a artist,if I were to shit in a can and call it art I can guarantee that I would be sent to a insane asylum.With that being said I am gonna have to respectfully disagee with all who belive this is art.
DeleteI agree on your point of view of what you interpreted it as.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion yes these pieces are works of art because they are a creation from our human body. I believe someone would buy these works of art because they are unique and no one else thought of this, only Manzini. This type of art demonstrates the nature of the human body and how it decomposes the things we eat. The message is art is a creation and must stand out to be considered a masterpiece. This is important because it’s contradicting and makes you think of your own definition of art.
I disagree with how you claimed Manzini is the only person that thought of this, because almost everything has been done before, just not put into the spotlight. I do see your point/understand your perspective on how you view his work.
DeleteI enjoyed your take on the beauty of the human body and waste. I see your point of view on that and I agree to it. Though, I would not consider it art in my eyes today.
DeleteI agree with you because I do see these pieces as works of art. Everyone has their own definition for it and you described it in your own way.
DeleteThis is Ashley Estrada from 1st period.
DeleteI agree because art dosent always have to be something appealing to the eye in class we leaned that in the wall senerio and I belive this was one of those.
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In my opinion, I wouldn’t consider this art,mainly because I don’t fully understand the objective of his work. Maybe they purchased the ‘‘Artist’s Shit’’ because they probably thought deeply about what it could mean other than feces in a can. I don’t know the exact message but my best guess is that it represents how things start to deteriorate do through time. I believe it’s important because it shows how nothing can stay forever. Overall, I don’t consider his work art, because I can’t seem to grasp the message behind it.
I would have to disagree because art is supposed to make you think and cause emotion and my feeling about this art are surprising how through time we decompose and this peice was the best way of demonstrating this through a version that we can see.
DeleteNatalie Rosales Per:4
DeleteI would have to strongly agree with Gabriela Mejia because art does make us have this sort of emotion towards the image or obstacle. Which also cause us to think in many ways.
David Medina P.1
DeleteI would also agree with both Natalie and Gaby because art does not have to have to be understanding but it is supposed to help you feel some sort of way towards it, you feel me?
I agree with Natalie and Gabriela because art can give a emotional piece to you but there are some arts that give you joy and also some in the world that you can look at and be like woww and change your whole personality at all times
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I agree with nikyi due to art, it can be a piece where you think deeply and makes you see it in many different ways because you can admire the beauty within and others, you can relate to personally.
I would have to agree with Brandon and disagree with the rest of you. These two pieces of art invoke no emotion or true meaning the so called "artist' simply loved the idea that his own breath and defecation could be considered art calling them the "artist shit" and "artist breathe". The only thing that this art creates is a argument weather this is considered art or not. No emotion nor message is produced.
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DeleteI agree but disagree on this because i also got confused but he did for a reason.
I agree with what you said because most people don’t understand the concept of this piece. I disagree with the rest of you because this piece does not show emotion in my opinion.
DeleteI disagree with you because just because you don't get the message it doesn't mean its not art. A lot of art work is confusing but just because we don't get the concept of them it doesn't change the fact that they are art.
DeleteI disagree because anything can be art , you just have to know the meaning behind it . Something so simple can look like trash but maybe it was meant to look like that to throw you off track so when you know the meaning behind it you’ll be surprised.
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ReplyDeleteTruly, to me this is a joke.
But one that I enjoyed laughing at. Art is everything within and without, making everything art means nothing is art. And popping a squat on a tin can is certainly...
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The 1960s was a time when Art rejected US commercialization. With the rise of pop art, minimalism, and conceptual art. With that being said, conceptual art meaning, art in which the idea presented by the artist is considered more important than the finished product, if there is any. That is were our friend Manzoni falls in. The message he was portraying was that anything is art, meaning nothing can be it too. Poking at the metaphors behind his “art” of pouring it and then sealing it, appeal to the targeted audience of the 1960s. Obviously, the massage behind the art means more than the finished product. And the reason be that, it was just what was popular at the time. Just for another word of thought, in the 1960s Andy Warhol created the piece referred to as 32 Campbell’s Soup Cans. In 1962, year after Manzoni’s Merda d’ Artista. Andy painted 32 varieties of Campbell’s Soup, with them now selling for $11.7 million. Hence, seeing a pattern in the art of meaning and repetition. But in my opinion, I prefer soup in a can than shit.
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Foremost credit for taking your time researching the historical context in which the artist had to face. I would have to agree with preferring the soup over the tin can of shit. Although we both prefer the soup the tin filled of shit is still art. As you said it is conceptual art in which the message is far more important than the piece itself. It demonstrates Manzoni to be a man of the 1960s falling trends in the art world. Manzoni was a leader and future inspiration for conceptual artist.
I agree on that because that is so true
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DeleteI agree on that because that is so true
Sebastian Luque Per.2
DeleteI really enjoy your comment and I agree with your message. Plus the historical context made me more convinced on how you viewed the Italian's work. The can has a greater meaning at the time of it's creation.
I agree with Kim saying, " art is everything within and without, making everything art means nothing is art. " I want to add on by saying if you make everything in the world art, art itself won't exsist. And the meaning of art in itself will change.
DeleteIn my opinion they can be called works of art because the artist is showing how art can be anything. I think people will purchase this because they we're curious about what was inside and so they bought it unless they already knew what was inside and they were just weird. I think he was interested in the three of the them the art, the idea and the message. The message that Manzoni wants people to see is that art cannot just come from our ideas but that we can be the art.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion they can be called works of art because the artist is showing how art can be anything. I think people will purchase this because they we're curious about what was inside and so they bought it unless they already knew what was inside and they were just weird. I think he was interested in the three of the them the art, the idea and the message. The message that Manzoni wants people to see is that art cannot just come from our ideas but that
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I agree with this comment because art can be anything it just depends on the person who sees it.
i agree with you because the idea of the art is about how people see the art and how people are curious to see what inside the can.
DeleteSebastian Luque Period: 2
ReplyDeleteThis can truly be art, anything that an artist makes is an art piece. Even if the exterior doesn’t look so appealing, but the message behind it can be something big. Purchasing these items is like buying a painting from the artist, it is still art it came from an artist. I believe the artist is interested on the fact that he was the only one in the world who thought of that idea. I believe that message behind the balloon is that the most gentle things that just wants to go up is hold back by something from the ground. The quote means that anything can become art if it has a purpose and a message behind it.
Natalie Rosales Per: 4
DeleteI really enjoyed your comment and I agree with the idea that art can be made out of anything and can have a deep meaning towards it.
I agree with Sebastian since he says that art wether not very appealing is still art and that is true because it just depends on the message behind the art and how the viewers portray it. It do agree since it is true and its more of the thought that goes towards the artwork.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I believe this can be called a work of art because anything can be made out of art. In other words, art can’t be only a drawing. It also can be made out of many items and different obstacles. For example, Mazoni just demonstrated how art can be made out of anything. I believe someone would purchase “Artist’s Shit” because even though his art is made out of a simple object, it can mean something thoughtful, made to live. The art is more interesting of the idea and the message behind it because Mazoni interpreted that art can be made out of anything and was unique. He thought out of the box. To be honest, I don’t know what the message is actually about, but it’s a clear message for Mazoni for creating something that’s super out of the ordinary. It’s important because the “Artist’s Shit” just demonstrated us that art can be made out of anything and come from our heart. The quote means that anything can become art if it has a purpose and have a message behind it.
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In my opinion, I would consider Merda d'artista was a work of art because you don't have to understand the art piece to call it art. A Lot of art in museum are confusing and a lot of people don't take some art seriously,it just depends on the person who sees it because one person can call it trash but another person can call it a work of art.
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DeleteIn my honest opinion I believe pretty much anything can be art, this is one of those examples. I believe if you consider something art then it is art. There is truly a meaning behind this and I really want to know what it is. Something I really like about art is that it can be something with barely any effort but there is a really mysterious meaning behind it.
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I agree with this comment because art is a form of expression and it doesn't have to be understand.
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In my opinion, I would consider Merda d'artista was a work of art because you don't have to understand the art piece to call it art. A Lot of art in museum are confusing and a lot of people don't take some art seriously,it just depends on the person who sees it because one person can call it trash but another person can call it a work of art.
David Medina P.1
DeleteI agree with your statement because it is true art does not have to be understandable you feel me?
I would disagree with you because i think you do have to understand the meaning of the piece to call it art.
Deletei came out as unknown but this is ,Elizabeth period 6
DeleteI agree art has many interpretation that not everyone understand or see. The artist may have on and the viewers many other. People take art all different ways some like the picture others like the interpretation. It is a unique way of expressing our own world to one another. We all see and do thing differently but it is nice to see how many different people bond through art.
Deletei agree with you because not everyone is going to understand the true meaning of everything and especially art. as long as the artist understands it and knows the true meaning of it it doesn't really matter if you do.
DeleteI respectfully disagree with your comment of, "you don't have to understand the art piece to call it art" simply because one must be able to understand the significance of an art piece in order to reveal their emotions given by it, and not just feel dumbfounded about what they simply see. I do agree with your comment, "depends on the person who sees it because one person can call it trash but another person can call it a work of art" because it is true that one's perspective on an artwork can be translated into something completely different by another person.
DeleteI would have to agree with you Raul, because the thing is that art isn’t always understandable. The artists don’t always have a meaning behind their art but it’s considered a piece of art because that’s what it is to the artist. A piece is always looked upon differently by people depending on their beliefs, perspectives and etc. and just like you mentioned someone can deem it as unworthy and someone else may see it as a ton of gold. Therefore, art can be literally anything because people are always going to have perpetual opinions.
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DeleteI really enjoyed your comment and I also agree with the perspective you gave on art. I do feel like art in museums are confusing to understand at times and it takes time to truly understand the meaning behind the piece.
Welp I came out as unknown,this is David Medina from P.1
ReplyDeleteThe artists shit, in my opinion I consider this concept as non art its just simple, i did not see a resemble of art people may see its art because it might be a nice color a nice paper to advertise or show.In the other heand you have merda d'artists does show detail and you can see a shape, moment,lines because it does for a shape therefore it has line,although artist's shit does have a pattern and a resemble nevertheless in my opinion merda d'artists shows my perspective of art.
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I somewhat agree with your point of view because honestly people could just stick a sticker to a can and claim it as art. good point.
DeleteI think this art because its a 3D model.Anything can be art because there are drawings and shapes and art and no matter what you will always have patterns in art.Any drawing to me is a art piece because it has lines and other things.It also have different color to it.
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I agree with you because like you said "anything can be art" and I think that too because of the shapes,color,and lines.
DeleteI respectfully agree with some of your ideas because "yes"art consists of shapes, lines, texture and, color but you also need to keep in mind that almost everything you see is art because it's the ideas you put into it to create a creation.
DeleteI agree with you because to me anything can be art as well. We are also surrounded by art every single day. Also anything of an object with elements can be seen as art.
DeleteIn my opinion, I would view this as art because not only is it a unqiue piece of art and thats was well thought of, but also I would consider it art because of how much of an effort the artist put into it, because come on now imagine how much he had to eat or consume in order to produce 90 cans of his own excrement. But, also I believe that the artist might have done this has a prank in the first place to see who was gilble enough to actually paid a load of money for human feces, until he actually realized like holy crap people are actually falling for this and just continue to keep up with this type of art.
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ReplyDeleteI believe these pieces can not be art. Art to can be anything but a can is not something new. Something eye catching about this piece is the price. The artist must of been really famous or it was one of those cases where rich people want to spent their money on useless things. If I were rich, I would probably spent my money on useless expensive things just to show off. The artist seems more interested in the hidden message because there is a lot of writing on the can. Maybe the message is what made the art piece more valuable. The Merda d’artista may convey the message that many things like a can, can be waste but it can be turned into something useful. It is an important lesson through art that artist leftovers is an art piece used to make an important art piece. The balloon can be a hidden of a combination of human and art production. The human production can be the air and art production can be the wooden piece and the ballon. A combination of the art work he wanted to show. Art can be anything when artist put their mind to the pieces and make the piece stand out because of something. If we said that art can not be certain things then now we would not have a variation of art pieces.
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Piero Manzoni pieces of work are to be considered art. Merda d'artista and Fiato d'Artista both works deal with the actual physical body of an artist. As the description said “the relationship between art production and human production”. His art demonstrates how as artist work months to create and demonstrate their masterpieces. In doing so they have to continue being human and create or demonstrate bodily functions. It seems important because it shows how art is everywhere and in inside you, this leads to the spectator to be inspired and comfortable with themselves.
It's also very personal to have put feces and breath inside the objects. This personal aspects show an artist who is passionate, bold and determine, to attract the audience through such a vulgar way some would consider. Usually breath specially hot breath as students say in Animo is mocked, feces is out of the question potent in order and disgusting. Someone might have purchase the artworks to feel connected with the artist since in a way you are purchasing something that once was theirs, it was inside them and part of them. A person might also purchase the items as the artist is famous and there a limited numbers of pieces available which would make the purchase an investment. The artist is more interested with the message since he is going as far as to deficating to put in a can and blow up balloons. He is making his body be part of the art to purposely convey a message.
The quote states,"Does this mean that anything can be art? Or does it mean that almost nothing can?" I believe the first sentence is referring to how there’s art that is very much questioned by many if it is art. That its difficult to classify art when times are changing and new ideas are brought to the light. That if you feel a emotion or message from an object you can say it is art. The second sentence probably refers to minimalist artwork. In minimalist you either work less on the project or put less elements and principles to your creation. For example how people have sold white canvases or all black canvases. As a whole the quote rises the question of what is and isn't art.
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DeleteI agree with you because like you said "His art demonstrates how as artist work months to create and demonstrate their masterpieces." Yes that totally shows that took lot of time for him to do it.
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The work of art by Merda d'artista the “Artist’s Shit” is art because in my opinion anything is art because to me everything is art. I have no idea why somebody would by this but maybe because they want to have a can as a ornamental because they like it. I think the artist is more interested about the work behind it because he did it for a reason with all those elements and principles. He did this piece of art for a reason which means that he did it because he wanted so I’m guessing that he did it because of the artwork itself. This means that anything can be work because it stands out and makes you think of what art is which is a creation by all of us “artists”.
I agree with you about art being anything because, like you said it’s “a creation by all of us “artists” ” . So we see art everyday even if we don’t really think about it, people who have created things in this world are artists.
DeleteI agree with you because I believe that the artist this this for a reason. Also art can be found anywhere.
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In my opinion I do truly believe that these can be called work of art because anything can be considered art if you are creating it. Piero Manzoni the artist took the time to put his breathe and work into his art pieces. If they cost the price of gold then it means that people just like him value his work that much that they are willing to pay the price. Someone would buy these art pieces because they value their masterpiece and believe they should be part of their personal decorations at home or where decide to put them. The artist is interested in art itself but also the message behind it or he would’ve never thought of creating it in the first place. I think the meaning focus on the art production and human production as he said that he focused it on his work. To me anything can be art because you put effort in creating it and at at times it can express what you are feeling without saying any words and or talking about it. People personally don’t always like to say what they are feeling show they show it in a way they think can best describe how they’re feeling.
I strongly agree with you because I believe that anything can be considered a piece of art. Even if it isn't visually appealing to everyone, that's not always the point. I think that as long as the author publishes it as a piece, that it can be considered one. I guess it is also because of my personal beliefs that “anyone can be a artist”. That is probably why I believe that anything can be a piece of art, no matter what people might interpret it as.
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ReplyDeleteI do consider this to be art since art is used to represent emotion and this Merda d'artista is the representation of art but in the sense of a personal work. Piero Manzoni's artwork brings controversy and makes you think of the true meaning behind this artwork which is the whole point of art which is of course to bring out the emotion of a person. The Artist’s Breath would also be considered art since it shows more of a meaning behind it where the artist wanted to convey controversy and also publisidy by bring out something new that he as an artist considers as art. I believe that the reason someone would purchase artwork such as the ones displayed would be just to have something valuable and also unique since these artworks are unique in the sense of how they are rare and only a few in the world. I would consider that the artist is more likely referring to the message of the artwork since art is made to send a message to whoever is admiring it and just the overall passion in which the artist uses objects to project a message through the general public with these artworks. The message that is presented in Piero Manzoni's Merda d'artista would be just be that the artist has many rough times were there paintings do no reach their standards and how overall they keep trying leaving the waste behind and pushing forward to make new artwork. In the Piero Manzoni's Fiato d'Artista, I believe that the meaning of this artwork would be how the essence of a breath is so important since it is taken for granted but is what keeps everyone going and is what allows them to stay alive and to keep on living. I believe that the quote demonstrated how art is seen in different perspective since some people believe that art is just meanly anything while others consider certain things to be art.
I agree that the rarity of the artworks is the reason why someone would want to buy them.
DeleteI agree with Ramon because people have always wanted something limited or rare because other people don't have it. - Angel Ramos p.4
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To be real with you, I honestly believe that these two creations wouldn't be considered art because they both look simple and non eye catching. In my opinion, I believe that people would purchase these creations because maybe during time they were made people thought that having these creations with them were nice to have around and maybe show off what others can't afford. I believe that the artist was more interested into his or hers creation probably due thinking about how much they would make from one single creation. The message is that whatever you have around you, you should always be resourceful because even the little thing can take you places meaning that you never know what you can make out of it. This is important because this could influence people to do the same and maybe change their life around. The quote made me realize that anything can be considered art because its you're ideas put into it. (HUMAN MADE)
I agree with you not considering this a piece of art because "they both look simple and non eye catching," and not only that but as well as it is not significant enough to convey any emotions to a human once fully analyzing these pieces. But, I disagree with your comment of "anything can be considered art because it's your ideas put into it" simply because art is not defined by the IDEAS you put into it, but by the emotions and perspective an artist is trying to reveal out of its audience.
DeleteI agree with what you said because people who have money do like to show off what others don’t have even if it’s something like the “fiota d’artista”.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that this would be considered art because art is something that you create and expresses your feelings with and maybe that is a way that he was expressing his feelings. Anything that you put your time and energy in is art. And if people like it and buy it is for a reason they are not just wasting money on useless things. It is unique and maybe even meaningful to some people. i think some people are more interested in the meaning behind the art and not really what it looks like. i think the message of this is that the most simple things can be art and can be recognized by anyone. Everything is art there is no question about it .everything was drawn and created to have a meaning in life.
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I agree with you because art isn’t only supposed to be beautiful it can be something that provokes an emotion and has a meaning
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DeleteI agree with your comment because the way you explained how it matters was very deep.
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ReplyDeleteI am not going to lie to you, I was disappointed at the “artworks” I came across. Prior to fully analyzing and reading the descriptions to these pieces, I came with such an open mind to try and take in the art behind this, but I was not able to because I would not consider these pieces “works of art.” I was recently told that the sole purpose of an art piece is to convey emotions in a human mind and being able to connect to the meaning of it emotionally, mentally or spiritually. I was not able to do so in any way, which is why I do not consider these to be works of art. Truthfully, I am not able to understand why anyone would purchase any of these pieces, besides being someone who believes that art is simply art if it is made either by hand or made to look like something that’s never been made before and looks like something “nice” to own. I think Manzoni's purpose was to create something that gives others a piece of himself and that others can use to remember him by because I do not know what kind of message he could’ve been interested to create using pieces like this. I most definitely cannot think of a message this artist could’ve tried to convey throughout these pieces, but I can create my own message for it and it is that any art piece should be considered as such through one’s own perspective and not just by it being a new piece that was created by an artist without any visual significance. This is important to understand because we are surrounded by artworks but it is up to oneself to create our own meanings behind them and being able to understand the significance for them being created. The quote, "Does this mean that anything can be art? Or does it mean that almost nothing can?" means to me that anything can be art if it can convey emotions to a human mind and can have a significance for its creation, not just for the artist but for the audience it is striving to reach.
I agree with your point that the meaning of an art piece is up to the viewer's interpretation but shouldn't be seen as insignificant because of their perspective of it.
DeleteI disagree with you because I will argue it is a work of art as long as it has a valid meaning behind it. - Ashley Estrada
DeleteI agree with Ashley because I will also argue that a piece of art does not need to be flashy in order for it to be a piece of art as long as it has a valuable meaning.- Angel Ramos p.4
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I believe that these can be called works of art because of the messaging and the emotions it invokes in people. That is the purpose of art after all. With it fulfilling a purpose and having a deeper message, it can be considered a piece of art. Someone would purchase these because in the art realm, it is something unique and unorthodox. They challenge people to think about art untraditionally and question what can and cannot be considered art. Works like these have never been seen before so it sparks interest and curiosity within people. I think the artist is more interested in the idea behind it because it was the message that made it so valuable, not the artwork itself. In my opinion, the message is that even human production can have significance and can be incorporated into works of art. This is important to diversifying art and bringing new elements that have never been considered before. It can inspire someone else to come up with new methods of creating art. I think the quote, “Does this mean that anything can be art? Or does it mean that almost nothing can? ” means that if everything is considered art then nothing can. This is saying that there must be a criteria for art because if not, art will become meaningless.
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I agree with your statement that the artist was more interested in the meaning of the art work, not the art work itself. I never thought of the meaning being related to the significance of human production and can totally see where you are coming from. That to me is what's cool about art, there are always different perspectives that not a single individual's going to think of.
In my opinion, these pieces of art can truly be called works of art. A work of art, to me, is something that has a purpose or meaning behind it. A work of art, doesn’t necessarily have to be something that is visually appealing to everyone, it can be literally be anything. Just like mentioned in the worksheet, a real piece of art should cause a controversy, because that means whether it's bad publicity or good publicity, it is still receiving publicity. Someone would purchase any of these, because they can probably see it from the perspective of the author, or they found a different meaning for it. I believe the artist is more interested in the idea or the message behind it, because it probably can be interpreted in a variety of ways and it is probably for the fun of it all, not having a centralized message behind it. I don’t exactly know the veracious, but my interpretation of it is that maybe it is the fact that the author decided to produce it and the people found it interesting and weird but then started finding something to replace it. What I mean by this is that, because the author might not have a message behind it, the people are able to put their own idea or interpretation of it, because there is no exact idea to it. This is important because many artists reflect their ideas into artwork, but this isn’t necessarily exemplified. These pieces of artwork may not seem extraordinary, but that’s the thing, art can be literally whatever, because someone can put an interpretation to it. I think that the quote means that art can be just about anything as long as there is some interpretation of it by someone, because art usually has a meaning to it.
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In my opinion, these pieces of art can truly be called works of art. A work of art, to me, is something that has a purpose or meaning behind it. A work of art, doesn’t necessarily have to be something that is visually appealing to everyone, it can be literally be anything. Just like mentioned in the worksheet, a real piece of art should cause a controversy, because that means whether it's bad publicity or good publicity, it is still receiving publicity. Someone would purchase any of these, because they can probably see it from the perspective of the author, or they found a different meaning for it. I believe the artist is more interested in the idea or the message behind it, because it probably can be interpreted in a variety of ways and it is probably for the fun of it all, not having a centralized message behind it. I don’t exactly know the veracious, but my interpretation of it is that maybe it is the fact that the author decided to produce it and the people found it interesting and weird but then started finding something to replace it. What I mean by this is that, because the author might not have a message behind it, the people are able to put their own idea or interpretation of it, because there is no exact idea to it. This is important because many artists reflect their ideas into artwork, but this isn’t necessarily exemplified. These pieces of artwork may not seem extraordinary, but that’s the thing, art can be literally whatever, because someone can put an interpretation to it. I think that the quote means that art can be just about anything as long as there is some interpretation of it by someone, because art usually has a meaning to it.
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I agree with you where art doesn’t have to be visually appealing. I have seen lots of art pieces that look like mesh when you walk past it, carefully placed in areas to create something new. Like those pieces of art where if placed in front of a light, it’s own shadow reveals the hidden masterpiece.
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In my opinion these pieces of art can be called "works of art". Although visually they might not look as flattering but they do have a meaning and a purpose behind it.
Because there were only 90 cans of "Artist's Shit" that makes them valuable. Artist's Breathe" were sold which caused controversy. But that is the authors job to spark a flame so everyone can talk about his work. It is meant to cause controversy and make mixed emotions. I believe the artist is more interested in the meaning behind the artwork itself. This concludes my thoughts that I think anything can be art as long as it has a meaning behind it and causes controversy.
I agree with you because the artist is way more interested in the meaning than the artwork.
DeleteYour opinion changed my perspective on the artist's work, I can now see how these pieces would be considered art. I really enjoyed when you said that although they aren't visually appealing they still have meaning and purpose behind them.
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In my opinion the art above is considered a good piece of art because I am sure it has a purpose. Piero Manzoni's art piece is a piece of art that can have many meanings.I believe that these meanings are up to the person who is looking at the drawing.So the meaning is through the one who is looking at it's perspective.Piero Manzoni's makes it only 90 cans to make it valuable/rare.He does this so he can be known and so his art pieces can be known.In conclusion,I believe Piero Manzoni's art is a good piece of art.
Ramon J. Lucero - Period 6
DeleteI agree since art is mainly used to serve a purpose and also the message that the artist conveys to the general public and also how he says that the paintings are rare so that only a limited amount of people are able to actually see the artwork first hand.
Although I don't consider Pier Manzoni's pieces art, I do agree when you say that he did this to become known. Obviously these pieces provoked reactions and that's ultimately what artists try to do with they're artworks.
DeleteI agree with this because everyone who creates something has a purpose.
DeleteI certainly agree that these pieces can be considered art. I say this because it took the artist countless hours just to make that magnificent piece. I believe someone would purchase this because they appreciate the hard that has been done.Do you think that the artist is more interested in the artwork itself or in the idea or message behind it? In my opinion I think the artist is more interested in the idea or message behind the art piece. For example in the second piece with the balloon that would have reminded the artist of the time when he had a balloon as a child etc. I believe the message of these images are to enjoy your childhood that’s all I’m guessing. This is important because life is short.Yes, anything can be art. It doesn’t matter if it looks odd or good it’s still art.
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I certainly agree that these pieces can be considered art. I say this because it took the artist countless hours just to make that magnificent piece. I believe someone would purchase this because they appreciate the hard that has been done.Do you think that the artist is more interested in the artwork itself or in the idea or message behind it? In my opinion I think the artist is more interested in the idea or message behind the art piece. For example in the second piece with the balloon that would have reminded the artist of the time when he had a balloon as a child etc. I believe the message of these images are to enjoy your childhood that’s all I’m guessing. This is important because life is short.Yes, anything can be art. It doesn’t matter if it looks odd or good it’s still art.
I agree with your comment because I also think that anything can be art if your mindset makes you feel a type of way about the piece. Art is everywhere and although we don’t see it as art it is art.
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DeleteI agree with your statement because the artist did take a long time working on both pieces of art and making sure it was meaningful.
I also agree with your comment because I think that many people can think of these pieces as "simple" and "easly" to make, when that isn't always the case. I like that you viewed the creation of these pieces quite literally, as yes, the artist could have tooken hours and days to make this, making it not as do-able and easy as most of the audience might think it is.
DeleteDamian Valderrama period:6
ReplyDeleteI believe Piero Manzoni's Merda d'artista, and Fiato d'Artista are both pieces he created not to invoke emotion but to only justify that he is the creator of these two pieces of “art”. So no Merda d'artista, and Fiato d'Artista both should not be considered art. Someone would purchase these pieces of art just to have believing that it must be something so “magnificent so I must have it”. I believe that the artist is more into the idea of it since it has no real message behind it and seems to be easy itself to make so he should not be so interested. The message this artist is trying to produce is that he wants to be known as an artist so he uses his own defecation and breath to try and put out that these items are so valuable because they com from him. This means anything could be considered art but not truly be worth to be called a piece of true beauty.
I would have to disagree because anything can be art and both of the art pieces have a purpose.
DeleteI would have to disagree with you because this piece of art has no type of imagination into it.It just consist of nothing of value and because of that it shouldn’t be conisdiered art.
DeleteMadelyne Rodriguez Period 2
ReplyDeleteI believe these can be truly called works of art because it consists of many elements of art and they are a creation of the human body. I think everyone views what art is in a different point of view. I think someone would purchase these type of arts because this can make someone with a different mindset see it as something meaningful for them. Therefore, they would purchase this. The message to this is that everyone see’s art in a certain way and that it’s created in many different styles. This means that anything can be art because we’re all surrounded by art everyday.
I strongly agree with this because art can be seen in many different ways, but art is all about being creative.
DeleteKailynn Edgley Period 1
ReplyDeleteI believe that The Merda d'artista and TheArtist's Breaths can be considered works of art due to it's value to the artist. However, i don't really find the creations very interesting but it is truly how people see the work of art. I think people purchase these creations based off their mindset and how they put the art in perspective, and if they see it as valuable as the artist they will like it and take it as art. I believe the artist is more interested in the artwork rather than the message . I don't really see the message in the art, i feel like the artist was amused by creating something and surprised by the turn out.
I would have to disagree with this be considered a piece of art, but I do agree with you saying you don't see the message of the art.
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ReplyDeleteI believe these can be works of art because the artist took the time to create this and he must have had a reason as to why he chose to do this type of peace. At the end of the day a artist job is for his work to be shown, so this pieces are shown to us and make us think why he decides to this, he made us notice his work of art. Someone would purchase this because to them it might have a meaning full feeling towards the piece. The message is that anything can be art, everything we use in a daily basis is art, and the person who created it is an artist. So anything can be art period.
I strongly agree with this because anything can be art as long as it is created.
DeleteI strongly agree because anything can be art and art is all around the world.
DeleteI can also agree with your opinion because, I too believe art is anything that requires your time and reason as to why you created it.
DeleteIn my opinion, the first picture can be considered art because it is something that he created. I would not consider the second picture as an art piece because he did not make the ballon or the wooden placks. I believe someone would purchase these because they like the way it looks or they are into that piece.I think the artist is more interested in the idea of the art work because he is using his mind to create something cool out of those items he has. The message is that anything you create can be considered art. It’s is important because there are no specific things you consider art, art is used and created in many different ways.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I think anything can be art as long as it is creative. Art is all about putting your thoughts into something and making something out of them.
I strongly agree with Brandon because using your thoughts in art you can create a cool looking art work.
DeleteI strongly agree with him because art can be anything as long as it’s creative.
DeleteElijah Martinez Period 4
ReplyDeleteThe Artist shit and The Artist Breath is considered a work of art. The artwork is telling us that everything will not last in a certain point in life. What the artist is trying to say that no matter what we do and how we do it. It will not last that long. This artwork make me feel like life is short and try to make the best of it. The mood that the artwork express is confusion because why he did it and for what reason. The balloon is the hidden meaning because when you put air in a balloon and you leave it there for a long time. The balloon will start to lose its air and it will start to deflate. An event that I am familiar with is a balloon that my brother kept after his graduation. That didn’t last that long, all the air was gone in a couple of weeks.
Arizbeth Rubio
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I’m not sure if these works could be considered works of art. Personally, I don’t understand the meaning/concept behind them so I don’t think they are works of art. I know art comes from humans expressing themselves creatively in almost any form, but I’m so confused as to why Piero Manzoni’s excrement is art. I believe that the people who purchased these works felt some type of emotion about it, as if they relate to them in some way. Since I don’t understand what the works mean, I can’t seem to understand why someone would purchase that either. I think the artist is more interested in the idea/message behind it because I don’t consider it artwork. Therefore, it should have a meaning that makes it special enough to be created. I’m not sure what the exact message is, but I’m going to assume it has something to do with the human body. The artist used things that come from the human body (excrement and breath) and called it art. I think the message is that anything of human creation is art, this is important because humans basically make everything from technology to farming. Looking at the quote “Does this mean anything can be art? Or does it mean that almost nothing can?” I would say that anything can be art, this man literally used his own excrement and breath and apparently it’s art. So this means anything can be art as long you consider it as such.
I agree with arizbeth because they are something that even a person that isn’t a artist can create and something with no story behind it
DeleteI’d have to agree with you on the part of not understanding the meaning behind the artworks. I don’t know myself either! Why would anyone consider it art???? It’s just literal shít, (let’s make it fancy).But I think one would have to really think deeply about every detail within it to truly consider it art...
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ReplyDeleteI believe that The Merda D'artista art piece can actual be a piece of art because of how much detail he put into those cans and especially that he only made 90 of them. I believe this Italian artist made it so that a person should purchase this item because he portrayed this message of anything is art and so it made it with value. I believe art interest me more when it has a big message behind it. I believe this piece of art has a message behind and i Believe the message is that anything can be art if you feel an emotion towards it or sense of feeling that triggers the human mind. This all means that anything can be art, if it has a message towards it.
I agree with your opinion because, I too believe art can be anything and that it can be made with value.
DeleteI would respectfully disagree because art should have meaning and his feces isn't meaningful, it's just water, dead bacteria, fiber from the food he ate, cellular linings, fats, salts, and substances released from the intestines.
DeleteThe reference you made about the detail and that there must be a reason as to why he created only 90 cans also really give a more curious eye into as to now we can see that he must have had a purpose for that. Because of this I also agree with you in that it is art do to a message he must have conveyed into it although we may not know it.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I think these two pieces of art can be truly works of art because they are bro 3D models. Someone might purchase these things because they want to know more about them. In my opinion I think that artists are more interested in how the art work looks.The message of this is that anything can be considered a piece of art. This is important because you can make money out of art work then you can eventually become an artist. in my opinion we see art everywhere we go.
In my opinion i wouldn’t consider these art because they don’t express an emotion or have a story behind it most art does have emotion and a story . I believe someone would purchase these because they found what’s behind this piece of art and find it interesting , the second picture is something I wouldn’t consider art either simply because it’s a balloon with the artists breathe in it there’s really no story to it. I believe the artist is more interested in the message behind it because the artist himself knows why he created this . I don’t really see a message behind this because it’s simply a balloon with the “ artist breathe” and a can with the “ artist shit” , I believe that quote means that anything can be art if you see art in something then it can be considered art because people have different point of views of everything
ReplyDeleteI agree with this response because I also feel like his work shouldn't be considered or called art because it doesn't evoke any emotion in my eyes.
DeleteAfter viewing the 2 pieces, I don’t believe they can be called works of art because it looks like the artist didn’t know what to do, especially with “Fiato d'artista”. I think someone would purchase the “merda d’artista” to use as decor so that they can fill up the house with random pieces of so called “art”. I know some celebrities buy art pieces so it looks like they know about art, which they don’t. As for the “Fiato d’artista”, I believe someone completely insane would buy this piece. Why would someone want a random balloon attached to a piece of wood for thousands of dollars when you could go to the store, buy a pack of 25 balloons, and get some bark off a tree or something? Why would someone waste all that money when you can make it at home? It still seems pointless. I definitely think that the artist is more interested in the message behind these two pieces. But in complete honesty, who would know what the message is? After reading the quote, I believe that certain things can be art. Like these two pieces, they do not look like art in my eyes. But others have different opinions.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you have to say because like you said, the “Fiato d’artista” can be made by almost anyone.
DeleteI agree with both Kimberly and Natalie because he might no have known what to do or was in a bit of a slump and just found the next thing to whether good or bad to call art.
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I believe this can be considered as a work of art because it was made by an artist and anyone and anything can be art. Someone would purchase this because they feel like it’s art and it’s worth buying. I think the artist is more interested in all aspects of his artwork because he has a purpose and idea for the artwork. I believe the message is that art can be anything and that he is one with the art like he puts himself in his art well literally he does. I believe it’s important because it’s worth a lot of money and an artist made it. This does mean anything can be art because no matter if it’s waste or a plain old balloon as long you believe it’s art that’s all that matters. But at the end of the day everyone had there own opinion on things especially art that’s why there is so much of it expressed in different ways.
In my opinion, I do not view these pieces as art. I mean, why would someone want to buy someone’s breath? I find that pretty disgusting. I have no idea why someone would buy a balloon filled with someones hot breath that’s also connected to a random piece of wood. In my opinion, it looks like a kindergarteners attempt at a science project. As for the “Merda d'artista”, some people buy art without understanding the meaning behind it. Some use it as decor but they still have no clue what it represents. I think the artist definitely has a meaning behind it but I can’t say I would know what it is. I do believe that anything can be art, it just depends how someone chooses to view it. I also believe that it depends who the person is.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely with what you have to say because the “Fiato d’artista” does look like anyone could make it.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion both these pieces are not considered art to me but to other people it could be considered art because anything now a days can be art and to me his message of him doing this is trying to tell the word something so simple can be considered a masterpiece.He wasn’t going for complex he was going for something that was simple so he show the world on how something like this can be considered art.But not to me these are not art they are just a joke because people work hard for there art and he comes around with this and makes art look like a joke.Why anyone would buy this is crazy no matter what there excuse of buying it is.So to me these are not art but a mockary to art.
I agree with you because I don't consider it art but there may be others who think differently about it.
DeleteI agree with you because art should be something creative and not just something that isn’t thought properly of.This piece is a mockery to art itself and those who believe its art.
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In my opinion I would also consider these works of art because art is the creativity one invents and this was Manzoni’s way of showing it. Someone would purchase any of these because they find value in them. Such as natural human waste being value to them in a way. I think the artist is interested in both the art work itself and the message behind it. The message of these pieces of art work would be that art can be anything. It doesn’t necessarily have to be paintings on a museum or tattoos on a body...but instead can also be human waste.
I can agree with you because I also believe that the message is that art can be made out of anything.
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In my opinion the only thing that separates this piece from being a complete waste of time and money is that it has meaning behind it. At least, I'd like to hope so. Because it's true that we don't know for certain, but I'd like to think it has meaning. Someone could have countless reasons to want to buy something like this. For example, what's the difference between something a famous person had and what came out of his or her body. If I could get my hands on Michael Jackson's silver glove then of course I'd buy it. It's basically the same with shit, is it not? Just different things. The same goes for the air in the ballon. Another example is a signature. Those, depending on who it came from could make a person a lot of money, so why can't shit and breath be woth the same? I believe the artist was more into the meaning behind his work than what it actually was, and more interested in wondering what others would think of it as well.I believe that the message goes along the lines of how silly it can be to spend millions of dollars on something that was used or in this case came out of the body of someone just because they are held higher up in society. I believe this is important because there's so many people out there buying cheap, worthless things and reselling them without a care of what it is.I believe the quite " Does this mean anything can be art or doee this mean almost nothing can. " is there to make the reader thing about and question exactly what is art. I believe this quote is trying to show that people should rethink and ponder apon what is and isn't or what should and shouldn't be considered priceless in life.
I would like to agree on your point that people could have bought this because of the "Brand" that it carries. Unfortuantly, in the art industery, most art pieces can be more looked upon because of the artist and their popularity rather than skill and effort. I also like the connection that you made with a more modern view point; that if it was something from your favorite artist, no matter how ridiculos, many people would still buy it because of its label. So yes, i do agree that bias could have a play on who purchased it.
DeleteI agree with you because I love the way you took the time to explain the reason behind your opinion and possibly why people would buy something like this. I’d also agree that signatures definitely do change the price of art pieces.
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In my opinion I don't think Artist's Shit and Artist's Breaths should be considered works of art. I believe that they wouldn't be works of art because I don't think they evoke emotion. Someone might purchase these two pieces because they might think it's cool to have something that literally came out of the artists body. The artist's message is based on the relationship between art production and human production. This is important because it shows you a little bit on what his thought process was when creating his works of “art”. I think his quote means we all have different ideas on what may or may not be considered art.
I somewhat disagree with Valerie's opinion on it not being art because it doesn't envoke emotion. My reason for disagreeing is because just because one person finds something unable to relate to doesn't mean somone else won't be moved by it.
DeleteIn my opinion these two pieces can be defined as art because anything is be art. I think some people would buy this because of the message behind it. When this was created many people were amazed with little things because they knew there perspectives on things would be different from other artwork that has been created. This is important because the form of art can be created in different ways and different forms. This means anything can be art because it is created by mankind and has a symbolic meaning in it.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I do think that these pieces can be considered art. Art by definition can take many forms and it isn't limited.“Artist's Shit” and “Artist's Breath” is no exception to the artistic definition. Art is also made to get a reaction out of the audience like Mr.Martínez has said. The pieces have clearly gotten a reaction from the audience as one of the main arguments are that the piece is easy and effortless to make. But some of the audience has also bought the pieces and at a high price which raises the question; why would someone buy such a effortness thing. I think the simple answer is that no one has done it before, and the audience certainly wouldn't do it either, making the piece unique. Its uniqueness also falls within its meaning and it's price. The concept, as the artist has stated, is the relationship between artistic production and human production. Using your own body to product something that is so private like “Artist Shit” is very artistic since its so unique and creative. The artist feeling of being unlimitedness within these pieces is ,I think, the main purpose of the pieces.
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In my opinion these are true works of art maybe to most of us these are just random pictures but maybe to others it can be a work of art. I learned about this last class about the wall senerio that to me it was just a wall but maybe to someone else it can mean much more then just that. When people who see it and don’t consider it art the artist still got the goal which was catch the attention which is what all artist have to it make it catch people’s eye wether it’s negative or positive. Artist also expect a reaction out of people and wether you like the art pieces or not you gave them a reaction which was another goal of an artist.Also maybe for me it might not be much but to someone else it speaks a thousands words. Furthermore, these art pieces make everyone feel a certain way wether it’s confusion or an understanding type of feeling and that maybe taken as consideration of art.
I agree with you because for many people this would not be considered art due to it being so effortless. The way people see things are different, they each have their perspectives. The artist goal is to catch people’s attention which it did. Even if it was you just trying to figure out why is it considered art.
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In my opinion both of them can be considered as art because it has a purpose and anything can be art. Not all art piece have to catch the attention of someone to be art. People would purchase this because they could look at the artist perspective and see what is the purpose of this art.I think the message is anything that you create can help anyone any type of way and art can be something simple. This is important because it shows that art doesn’t mean that you have to create something are a board or on a wall it can be something to help you also. Yes this means anything can be art because you are using your mind, you are being creative and most likely gonna have a meaning behind what you create.
I agree because it can be something important to someone anything could be art.
DeleteI believe these two pieces can be considered works of art when you understand the meaning or reason behind them. To anyone passing by they’d probably be confused and wonder “Why waste this space for that?” I know I wouldn’t understand why someone would put this brown, circular container with feces in it,or the red ballon out for display. Art is anything that evokes expression, a thought, or feeling. I think the artists wanted to create something different that you don’t usually see when you go to admire and discuss art.
ReplyDeleteSomeone might actually like the idea of these two pieces and want to buy them. Art isn’t just beauty at first glance, it’s always been anything and always will be. It’s like for someone to buy a painting that brings out serenity, something they enjoy, except it’s with these two certain art pieces. We are at a time where possibly even a rod can bring out different thoughts. It could be rusty with an odd shape, and give off a old vibe, in a white room. You’d be in a room with something that makes you feel a certain way, whether it be confusion, disgust, or curiosity.
I agree with you because what’s important is the meaning behind the art work. The meaning behind it is what makes it stand out for what it is. The artist is different from many other artists. He didn’t have to create a eye catching art work for it to be considered art, like other artists.
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In my opinion this isnt considered art because the artist did not put a lot of thought into this piece of art and to me there is no message, he just did this to see what kind of response he will get if he did this piece of art.But he probabaly got what he wanted because he got people talking about his piece and make people argue if this is art or not and the majority just as myself BELIVE this will not be art because he is trying to make art look so easy like he isn’t putting any thought into his piece and just did something random.These piece of art shouldn’t be bought they isn’t nothing good or specials about them being bought because any person can do this,this art has no meaning into it and it should be seen as a joke and nothing else.
I disagree with this because it something that can represent something to someone
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In my opinion, I think these can be considered works of arts because for everyone art is different. Not everyone’s art will be eye catching but for the artist it’ll have a meaning behind it. Behind this art, the meaning is what matters because art isn’t always so appealing. Someone would purchase any of these because of the message behind it or because of the perspective they seen this work in. At the time Manzoni was the one who created this work when no one else did, which made it special and a piece of art. I think the artist is more interested in the message behind it because something soo effortless can mean so much more due to the meaning behind it. The message is anything can be art and anyone can create art whether it’s appealing or not. This is important because not every art work is the same, everyone’s is different. The quote means that everything can be considered art even if the art work seems like nothing.
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I believe that these pieces can be considered art because art can really be anything but I don’t think it was valuable enough to be sold as if it was gold. Anyone can blow up a balloon and anyone can put feces in a can so why would I buy something I can do. I think the artist idea was probably that art can be made out of anything even from our own bodies. I think this is important because sometimes we can forget that art does not only have to do with paper, brushes,paint,and etc we can literally make art out of anything. I think this quote means that can you make art out of anything ,from something so small to something so big.
I agree with you in the these two works can be considered art and love the idea that you brought up in that art can be made out of anything in our bodies as well which would be a great message that the artist might have been trying to envoke.
DeleteI agree with your first sentence because these art pieces aren't impressive to me. I also agree with what you said about art not being only on paper because sculptures or any object can be considered as art.
DeleteIn my opinion I think this is art because it may represent something important to someone. Some draw or build sculptures representing something important. I guess anything can be art because it’s a symbol of something I can draw or build something and can represent something important.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this because any art you come across was always created by someone that put in time to create it by drawing it or building it and they always do it by what comes to there heads.
DeleteDiana Proaño
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In my opinion these can be called arts of work because they are unique and different to what we now see as to what is called art. Art nowadays can be anything as long as it has a meaning behind it or it is a creative piece that the artist created as he let himself be expressed, both figuratively or literally (as expressed in the Merda d'artista ). In both these pieces I believe that the artist was more interested in the artwork itself due to the name of both works. Usually when artists have a hidden meaning behind artworks they tend to incorporate it into the names so that people can try to decipher the work but here, he puts the names as the actual pieces itself. For example as the “artists shit” is literally his feces in a can, and the “artists breath” is his breath in a balloon. Although I do not think there is a big underlying message as I see it as literal pieces of art, many concealed messages can be found by various supporters and art enthusiasts. One to be the most mentioned and obvious would be that the artist is trying to show how art can literally be claimed to be anything as long as you see it as art. That is why he made his so obvious and practical to make. So overall although these two works can be seen as either imposters for what they call art or master pieces it shows how art can be anything and all you have to do is let your mind express itself along with being able to use anything at hand.
I agree because many people have images in there heads and now and days many decide to put there imaginations on paper and then it becomes art because these are images coming from peoples heads
DeleteI agree that the art pieces are very unique and different which makes it stand out even more. However, I believe that the artist was more interested in the meaning of the art piece rather than the image itself. In addition to this, I believe that the artist did have a significant meaning to his piece. I agree with your last sentence because these images weren't really impressive to me.
DeleteAlejandro Gomez Per.4
ReplyDeleteI believe this is actual art because anything that can have you thinking is something that I can call art and when you look at the shit closer you can see that there is a lot of letters. We don’t know what those letters mean they can be symbols, I believe that he does not care about the art but more like the meaning because if he only cared about the art why use his own breath that red ballon that has his breath stuck in it can also mean a lot. What could it mean? Could it possibly mean that we are all stuck in a balloon stuck to the earths crust or what. I think many people would purchase this because everyone loves a piece of art but they would absolutely love a piece of art that you will not understand because of how mysterious it is. I think anything can be art because everything is a mystery to some it’s not but to many it is and that’s how it will always be no matter how you look at it.
Well in my opinion, I feel like both of them are a piece of art. I think the first one has more of a meaning then the second one it was priced of the price of gold. The second one is just a balloon blown up & put on wooden placks & to me there's no meaning so it might could me a different type of art. People might purchase one of these because they might want to have it around like for decoration. I think that artist is more interested in the idea & the artwork itself because they both could matter to him & everyone else the looks & the message behind it. To me anything can be art but be different types of art because most people use art as a way to express their self or to calm them.
ReplyDeletei really enjoyed your comment and i agree with you saying the artist is interested on their idea of the art work because a lot of artist draw with an idea of what they painted.
DeleteNathan Abrego
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In my opinion I believe that this is a work of art because art is supposed to have meaning and this art that Piero Manzoni's has a meaning behind it.I believe that a person would buy this at is because they could use to shows their social status or maybe because they know the artists work and like it.I believe that the artist is more interested in the idea and message of the art than the artwork itself.This is because he is trying to shows that nothing can last forever and eventually it has to deteriorate.So overall in my opinion I believe that this is a work of art
Jamar Bell, Period 6
DeleteI agree with your opinion, I believe the artists was more interested in the meaning of the art. Perhaps he was leaving the meaning of the art to everyone else's imagination of what the art could mean. There, though, is a possibility that the art could mean nothing.
Priscilla Flores P:4
ReplyDeleteThese can be called art , not because of the meaning behind it but the time it took to make . Art can be made from anything and not have a meaning behind it but be art because of how long you dedicated your time to it . Some might purhase one of these because it reminded them of something special . In my opinion , I think the artist is more interested in the message behind it because it can be a small situation but a deep point of view . I think the message in the Artists Breath is to let something within you blow into the balloon so if you die , that lives forever until its deflated. I think its important because in some say it connects to the artist at heart , or mind.
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ReplyDeleteI think that the Artist’s Shit should be call a work of art because it was focused on art and human production. People buy these art because people are curious to see what inside the can. I think the artist is more interested in the message behind it. It's important because it show the relationship between art and human production. I think this that anything can be art because art is about how you feel and the message behind it
ReplyDeletemarcos rodriguez period 6
ReplyDeletei agree with most of your comment, but i disagree with the time that matter of the art instead of the meaning behind because the meaning of the art can show what it about and why the art made it.
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ReplyDeleteMarcos rodriguez Period 1
ReplyDeleteTo me yes they can be art because the balloon can be shown of an emotions of the person who has it in their house.I think that people will buy these because they want to express what they are feeling.
I think that the artist are are more interested on the idea of what they are doing to the art.The message is to show what the emotions of the person is having. It important to know how the person is feeling from the balloon to understand what they feeling.
It mean that anything can be art of what the detail can be show to express what the emotions is from a art like the detail of color or drawing of it.
yes I do believe that the artist is more forced on the on the idea. I really like how you used emotion in it
DeleteI do think poop in a can is art. To me there's some significance to some poop in a can,as poop in a can could represents a bad relationship or just how terrible life can be or even how sad and crappy a person could feel after being rejected by their crush, hypothetically. Poop in a can could also be considered art because everyone it's getting publicity, people are having debates over it practically every year. Artists have many different interpretations of this piece of art, these interpretations could be the possible drive for artists wanting to purchase poop in a can, as weird as it, it serves a purpose for that artist. The balloon mounted to a wooded plaque could also be considered a piece of art.To whatever artists that evaluates it, even possibly purchase the art, to me and that artist the significance of the inflated balloon is how sometimes the world offers you a promise that looks grounded and secured but is really it's a promise that's filled with air inside, a promise that is just a fluke. To me an artist would buy this art for the meaning of the art to that individual. That's the beauty of art, it isn't always about how colorful, or complex the art is. More than anything its about the meaning of the art to and effect on the viewer. Simply poop in a can and a balloon mounted to a wooden plaque serves that purpose, as my imagination is able to interpret the art in a way that relates to my experiences in life.
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DeleteAlthough you do have a good interpretation of Manzoni's work and the multiple meanings behind it, I still wouldn't call it art because it doesn't invoke any feelings for me. Sure it can mean a lot of things with significance, but that's only if you dive deeply enough into it as you did. Sure it has many interpretations but that only makes it more of a symbol than art, a symbol that doesn't make me think any deeper of myself, human production, or art itself. It may cause controversy over what art truly is and can be, but that's due to the idea of considering the piece art, not the work itself. You may still consider this piece art due to your multiple views, but I'm going to have to disagree with you.
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The Artworks above can truly be considered as art because anything can be art especially when it has a meaning to it . Simple or Complex anything can be art . The things that matter or the work effort, the details, and the interpretation of the artwork. Why would someone purchase any of these ? Like I’ve explained previously if it catches your attention you will buy it simply because you find yourself lost in the beauty or meaning of it . Even if it’s expensive, sometimes it’s worth it because your communicating with the art . The artist is more interested in the meaning because something so simple and small can have the biggest impact on others . It’s important because you have to see the beauty , to see the meaning and to question the art . Why would someone so this ? Why was is it important to them ? How did they feel or what was going on in their mind when doing this ?. Anything can be art but it can also be nothing .
Anthony Martinez
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I believe that the art piece shit can be considered art because this is trying to give a message and the creator wanted to send a message to the viewer. also it can be considered art because thing that are art they come from your thoughts or your heart and I think that the creator wanted to put this thoughts into a piece like the one shown in the image. I believe that people would purchase this piece of art because they thing that if they buy something thats of high value, then by the time it will go up in value and it would have been worth the purchase.i also think that people would also purchase this because they would curious to see what message the art has to offer and also to see what the artist put on it. I believe that the artist main focus was on the message of the art piece because he's trying to make the viewer understand the relationship between the human production and the art production, I believe that the quote means that if something so simple can be considered art then how come somthing we use everyday can't .
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ReplyDeleteIvan Franco P:6
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, I’d say that both the balloon and the can of shit are not truly pieces of art, because to me art is a piece of work with either aesthetic value or something that provokes me to think or feel some sort of way. When I look at these items I don’t see any aesthetic value and even though they both symbolize the production of art with the production of humans it doesn’t impact my feelings or thoughts at all. It may just be the way I look at it, but this is not what I’d call art. I’d say only somebody who thought about the piece too deeply or just wanted to show off that they appreciate art would buy these pieces, because any normal person would just think it’s not worth it at all, but somebody who put too much thought into it would see past the intended message and believe it symbolizes something like the deterioration of human production and the timelessness of art, which is a great interpretation, but may not be the exact message Piere Manzoni wanted it to have. By looking at the art I can tell that the artist didn’t really care for the artwork itself, but the the message behind it due to its lack of aesthetic value which can be seen by the dull looking can and the balloon that looks like any other balloon. I’d say that the message behind Manzoni’s work is that human production can be considered art, and I believe this because he literally uses his own produce, his feces and breath, and sells it as art. I’d say this message is important because it is showing that anybody and everybody's production should be art. I’d say that this means anything can be art.
In my opinion this is art because any object that has line or zigzag is art. This is art not just because of its meaning. Someone put effort & emotions to his art work, he put everything he thinking of in his work. He is basically sending a message for people to see. Eggie Aguiar period 1
ReplyDeleteI don’t necessarily think the first image should be considered “a work of art” because to me it’s just a cylinder that has foreign language which I don’t understand. The second image should not be considered “a work of art” because it’s just a red balloon on top of a piece of wood which doesn’t impress me at all. I anticipate someone would purchase the first art piece because it’s probably reflecting on their culture or it says something that stands out to them. Someone would purchase the other art piece because they are probably into balloons or the image might be significant to them. I think that the artist is more interested with the meaning behind these both images because they drew it for a reason which everything has a meaning or a cause. I assume that the message for the first art piece is for his people who speak the same language or are from the same culture. The second art piece might mean that as a child, the artist might have had an interest with balloons as child and wants others to relate to him as well.
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